Friday, February 06, 2009

More tolerance news from Italy

Piergiorgio Stiffoni (no sniggering at the back, that really is his name, apparently) who is a Senator from the ever-delightful Northern League party in Italy (and hence part of that country's racist government) on the subject of Romanians: "If an extraterrestrial came down to earth and asked me what Romanians specialised in, I would say "rape""

(That's my translation of Se un extraterrestre scendesse sulla terra - dice Stiffoni - e mi chiedesse qual e' la specializzazione dei rumeni, gli risponderei 'lo stupro', which since I don't speak Italian is quite possibly slightly wrong, but not by much I think)

If an extraterrestrial came to earth and asked me what members of the Northern League specialised in, I would respond "being disgusting bigoted xenophobic scumbags", and then I'd ask if I could borrow his ray-gun.

13 comments:

Gadjo Dilo said...

Italian politicians are behaving like such hypocrites. Tell them to take back all their mafiosi from where they are scattered around the world and then they can complain about other nationalities. (Except, unfortunately, the Northern League would point out that the Mafia etc are generally from Southern Italy.)

Adi said...

Thank the gypsies for it. Too bad they have Romanian citizenship, so officially they are not distinguishable from other Romanian ethnic group.

Soj said...

Your translation is fine!

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupro

To be perfectly pedantic, "lo stupro" would be translated as "sexual assault" in a strictly legal sense though.

Anonymous said...

I had a good laugh. Every Italian should read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Italianism

The truth in Italy people got used with these stupid sorts of a declaration made by North league politicians. Nobody takes it very seriously though...As someone put it: this is "teatrino"...

Andy H said...

Adi: I think you are falling into the same trap as dear old Mr Stiffoni there. The point is it doesn't matter what nationality or what ethnic group a particular criminal comes form it doesn't mean that entire ethnic group is culpable.

Anonymous said...

Andy,
many Romanians are falling into the same trap as Adi.
Thank you for telling him.
The fact is our scumbag Government and embassies and so on do nothing to stop this continuous humiliation we Romanians, a large group and therefore not easily to be labeled, are subjected to.
You will never read an article about Russian mafia for instance.
And who is next, the weaker, to be blamed? Gypsies.

Nice Europe, huuh?
really "proud" to be European.

Camy

Anonymous said...

What I wanted to say is, the way people across Europe treat us, write about us ans so on...or better said, when you are shown xenophobia you kind of don't care about "others" too..It is not stimulating for us to improve minorities rights for instance, even though there are mo major problems (not anymore) in our country. Of course still is more to be done.
But anyway, I do not try to excuse someone or some institution, just to explain this popular feeling.
Camy

Adi said...

Andy, you didn't get my point.

I didn't blame every Gypsy for crimes their pals committed in Italy. I just wanted to point out that most so-called Romanian criminals in Italy are, in fact, Gypsies AFAIR in the news. Since the mostly politically correct media 'forgets' to mention their ethnicity, in the eyes of the average Italian they're regarded as Romanians.

Oh, and BTW I'm Hungarian, posting from Budapest. :) OTOH I do have "lófő székely" ancestors. I just stumbled upon your blog a couple of weeks ago and got addicted near instantly. :) So I put it into my feedreader.

Camy, would you please stop bullshitting? How interesting it is that no other minority in Hungary has the same co-existence problems like the Gypsies do, isn't it? Look at my hands as I type: I don't blame them because of their skin colour or ethnicity, but because of their culture; which is radically different from the 'European mean.

And, days after the brutal murdering of poor Marian Cozma (RIP), will you please shut the fuck up?! :I

Anonymous said...

Joj, Istenem!!!!
Had a good and loud lough, Ady baratom!

I wouldn't like to meet YOU in person, that is for sure.
Have a nice life in Budapest!
Szia!

Anonymous said...

RIP for Marian Cozma indeed.
I am absolutely sure HE wouldn't be happy that he could be a "reason" for hate and fascism.

Andy H said...

Andy, you didn't get my point.

I didn't blame every Gypsy for crimes their pals committed in Italy. I just wanted to point out that most so-called Romanian criminals in Italy are, in fact, Gypsies AFAIR in the news. Since the mostly politically correct media 'forgets' to mention their ethnicity, in the eyes of the average Italian they're regarded as Romanians.


I'm still not getting your point, I'm afraid Adi. Some people committed a terrible crime in Italy. What does it matter who they are or what ethnicity they are? Likewise some people committed a terrible crime in Vezprem. Again, what relevance is their ethnicity?

I don't blame them because of their skin colour or ethnicity, but because of their culture; which is radically different from the 'European mean.


You blame them because of their culture? I really hope this is a poor translation of something else

Adi said...

Andy,

I don't blame them because of their skin colour or ethnicity, but because of their culture; which is radically different from the 'European mean.


You blame them because of their culture? I really hope this is a poor translation of something else


Yes, a certain, but still existing subculture of the Gypsies. Just check out the origin of the word "cigánykodik" in Hungarian, or dig down to the roots: "atziganos", which is the originating word for "cigány" in Greek-Byzantian, meant outlaw in the Middle Ages.

I'm truly sorry for not answering the retards who can't even spell my nickname correctly.

Andy H said...

I'm still really uncertain about what blaming people for their culture means.

And the words that are used by various European languages to describe Rroma don't really mean anything. The word Gypsy in English is derived from Egyptian, because that's where they were originally thought to have come from. It doesn't actually have any relevance.